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Logan Sekulow and Will Haynes discuss Rep. Hakeem Jeffries plans for the Supreme Court if Democrats regain power.
Logan Sekulow: On today’s show, Hakeem Jeffries reveals his disturbing plan to remake the Supreme Court in his own image. Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever, this is Sekulow. We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110. And now your host, Logan Sekulow. Welcome to Sekulow. Phone lines are open at 1-800-684-3110. We told you they would do this. We told you they were not only going to threaten it, but that the plans were in motion whenever there was a Supreme Court of the United States that seemed to be leaning to the right. Let's just be honest. We have had a lot of decisions being made that did not go in favor of the current administration, but they don't want you to believe that. They don't want you to think that there is any sort of evenhandedness happening in today's United States Supreme Court. That is exactly the plan and exactly what was laid out by Hakeem Jeffries in a speech yesterday, claiming specifically it is time we remake this Supreme Court in my image. Let's talk about that. We're going to play the actual clips a little bit later when we get back from this segment because this is the truth of what is happening right here. They know, and they're claiming, there are a lot of options on the table for what they could do with the Supreme Court of the United States. Honestly, what they could do in general to subvert even the elections that happen here. As we've said, just like when there have been Democrats in office, elections have consequences. One of those big consequences that we've been preaching about for 40 years is the United States Supreme Court because the President picks who is going to be on the Supreme Court of the United States, and then they have to be confirmed. This has been more brutal in more recent years, but we know even in the 80s and the 90s, this was also not a pleasant experience for a lot of Supreme Court justices. We have seen what happened in the Trump administration. We have seen what's happened with other people who have been put up, some of whom have been pulled. This is nothing new. But now, we've heard, "pack the court." We heard that from the Biden administration many times. We heard the idea of expanding the Supreme Court or remaking the Supreme Court to be more favorable to one political party or another, and not to have these maybe lifetime appointments. Again, that actually does keep some of the balance at hand because you don't have just a complete flip-flop every month or every four years of who now is in control, therefore setting the federal law.
Will: This was at the National Association of Black Journalists convention in Atlanta, where the minority leader of the House of Representatives, who is hoping to be the next majority leader of the House of Representatives, said that he believes dramatic Supreme Court reform is necessary. He didn't stop there. We'll play this in the next segment so you can see exactly how this came across to that audience. He says that the Supreme Court has now become a subsidiary of MAGA. The absurdity of that plays into everything the DSA is trying to push right now. When they sit there and they say, "Don't worry, Wisconsin showed that the adults in the room for the Democrat party are still around and that they're going to be able to moderate," yeah, we got all these candidates in New York, Colorado, and Michigan, but really the establishment is holding strong. No, they're going to walk down this line that is right out of the DSA playbook because it is about eliminating the checks and balances that our founders put forward. It is about remaking our government in their image. It is about tearing down the very things that protect American civil liberties because they want to take the court and do away with it in this way that the founders wanted. They want a rubber-stamp Supreme Court for all their liberal policies.
Logan Sekulow: That's right. It is the end of "Know Your Rights Week." We've got a special video presentation coming up. But as Will said, support and protect your civil liberties. I like that one. That was an accident. Civil liberties! Know Your Rights Week, it’s the Impact Match. Be a part of it today. All donations are doubled. Go to ACLJ.org/act. You’re going to hear about it a lot today. It's the end of the Know Your Rights Week. We've been rolling out these funny videos. Will, you've been putting them out. Today's the last one unless people love them. Then we'll keep rolling. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. Give me a call right now. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Sekulow. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. We were talking to you about Hakeem Jeffries making this broad statement saying there are a lot of paths that can lead to a brand new Supreme Court of the United States. I think we probably should hear from Hakeem Jeffries himself. Will, you want to set this up?
Will: This is at the conference in Atlanta yesterday, the National Association of Black Journalists convention. Hakeem Jeffries, the House Minority Leader who is obviously making the play to be the next Speaker of the House if the Democrats are able to take back control, but it's not a sure thing for him. You're starting to see such a split within that party that it is almost sometimes like what the Republicans had when all of a sudden you have a branch of your entire caucus that decides, "We're not going to vote for you." We saw all the issues that we had trying to get a Speaker of the House under Republicans. Because he is more the establishment person, he's now trying to make his play for the support of the new members of the House. That's 100% what this is. But the scary thing is that they will do this to get power and then they will be held accountable by the members of their caucus. So don't think that this is just political bloviating trying to ensure that he can become the next Speaker of the House. Here is what he had to say about the Supreme Court just yesterday.
Hakeem Jeffries: In my view, dramatic Supreme Court reform is necessary. I'm going to leave it to the Democrats on the Judiciary Committee led by Jamie Raskin, who will be the next chair if the American people give us the ability to govern on their behalf in the majority. There is a variety of different options that are on the table, and I think that we can't foreclose any single one of them.
Will: Right there at the very beginning of that clip, "In my view, dramatic Supreme Court reform is necessary." Then he tries to play it off and says, "I'm going to let the committee chairman take the lead on that," and there are a lot of ways and a lot of different options on the table. But he frames it right there. That is the priority of a Democrat-led House of Representatives starting in 2027 if they are to take back the majority in the House. Dramatic Supreme Court reform is necessary. He draws the line in the sand. Let's go ahead and play the second portion of this statement of what he has to say about the current makeup of this Supreme Court.
Hakeem Jeffries: The Supreme Court, the conservative right-wing majority on the Supreme Court, has become basically a subsidiary of the MAGA Republican party. We're going to push for dramatic reform of the Supreme Court.
Logan Sekulow: Show me the evidence of that, Hakeem Jeffries. Because you know how many shows I've had to come on here and explain to people that a case did not go the way President Trump wanted it to go because some of his own justices, if you want to call them that, the ones that he selected, decided to vote what they felt represented the Constitution correctly even if they disagreed with President Trump. I've had to come on here and explain that to people over and over again. It's just fake. It's just a lie when you start claiming that this is some sort of Trump court. Trust me, President Trump would much rather have a Trump court. We've seen what he's posted occasionally on X, often not thrilled with some of the decisions they've decided to make. But you know what Hakeem Jeffries is doing? He knows that a large percentage, the massive percentage of the American voter, isn't going to do that research, isn't going to do that digging. He hopes that that five-second clip is enough to convince you that the Supreme Court is overrun by Republican activists only because they did decisions like the Dobbs decision. It's not because of anything beyond that, not because of looking at the facts. Again, how many times have we come on here and had to break the news to our audience and had to explain to you why it's good that we have a Supreme Court that operates the way it does?
Will: One thing that we're going to be rolling out as we look towards what is going to happen in November—and we know there's an election, and we know that the insurgency within the Democrat party is trying to push to fundamentally break down our system—is we're going to try to be putting out more educational content that goes back to the roots of it. We're still in this 250th anniversary celebration of our country. We need to be remembering the roots of it. There is testimony from the late Justice Antonin Scalia before the Senate Judiciary Committee from 2011, 15 years ago, where he was sitting there with his colleague, Justice Breyer, and they were talking about the role of judges under our Constitution. Remember, we saw this year testimony from Elena Kagan and Amy Coney Barrett as those justices were talking about the need for security. This was a less contentious time back in 2011 where they're talking about the role of judges before the Judiciary Committee. It's so profound and something that many people have never watched or seen because, really, a Judiciary Committee hearing from the justices isn't must-see TV for most people. But he talks about the genius of our Constitution, and it's not the Bill of Rights. The Bill of Rights, he goes on to say, the Soviet Union had a stronger Bill of Rights on paper. The words that were printed in their Soviet Constitution were stronger than even our Bill of Rights. The genius of our Constitution, what keeps the centralization of power from one party and authoritarian at bay, is the separation of powers. The fact that we have an executive that is elected by the people outside of the legislative branch. It's not an authority or an extension of the legislative like a parliamentary system. The Prime Minister is the ruling party of the UK. It's the one that gets the most seats in the Parliament or that they have the most people join on to help support them. Also, our judiciary not being a function of the legislature or the executive branch, being outside of that. What the DSA wants, and what we're about to fall into the trap of—and the leaders of the Democrat party are falling victim to this—is that we need to break apart the very thing that sets the American system of government apart from every other government in the world. That is our separation of powers between the judiciary, the bicameral Congress. He loves that bicameral! Even in the UK, the House of Lords is ceremonial. They have technically a bicameral thing, but it's really a uni-party. It's the House of Commons that gets everything through. At the end of the day, if we allow this mindset to continue and say, "They're trying to trick you into thinking that there isn't separation of powers," just bring up the birthright citizenship case alone and it proves to you that there is an independent judiciary. So when he says that it is a subsidiary of MAGA, give me a break.
Logan Sekulow: But we know it's an easy thing to run on. And then, honestly, it's maybe a little easier than you'd expect to adjust it, to change it if they have the power. It's not like there can be a lot of stopping them from remaking that court.
Will: Here is what we're going to have to watch. In two years, no, they're not going to be able to remake the Supreme Court in the next two years because what do we have? We have a president who can veto that. I don't think that President Trump is going to say, "You're right, Hakeem Jeffries," unless he does get to expand the court with his justices. Then they're going to really start playing with fire. If they get there and they are able to take back the House and the Senate, and they push for this, what is the one thing that they will immediately get rid of? The filibuster, to ram this through so that they, if they have both House, Senate, and Presidency, completely remake the Supreme Court. We've been warning about this, not recently, for years, that this is the end goal of the Democrat party, the establishment Democrat party, not just the DSA.
Logan Sekulow: This is not the quiet part out loud. They have been talking about this. The idea of remaking the Supreme Court or packing the court has been floated out there a lot during the Biden administration, that they were talking about it and trying to get it done. I don't think this is just an empty threat. It's not just a political promise. I think there are the plans to do that. Of course, you have to look at what it means in the future as well. But I feel like politicians are only interested in their immediacy. They're only interested in whether it affects their votes right this second, not in how it impacts when the next president is in office or if the current president is not, or if the Republican is in or Democrat is in. It's, "What does it mean to our voters right this second?" because their attention span is just in this next 12 months, and then who cares, we'll move on. We have to think about that even on both sides of the aisle, on all sides of the aisle. What is the grand impact of these kind of sweeping changes? Welcome back to Sekulow. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. I want to get you on the air today. Before we do that, it is Know Your Rights Week. It's the last day of Know Your Rights Week. We are, of course, talking about your constitutional freedoms. We've been giving you a different series, a different look at what Will and his team put together, really fun videos. They're very shareable videos, but we like to premiere them here. I want you to go to ACLJ.org though and make a donation today if you can, because during the whole month, donations are doubled. But right now it is Know Your Rights Week. We're celebrating it, we're talking about it, and we're creating content for you. All of it is available on ACLJ.org. If you decide to donate, that would be fantastic. Do it during our Impact Match and all donations are doubled. Should we just roll with it? Let's just be surprised! It's Friday. Let's take a look. We'll be back in just a minute. Watch this special video. It's going to premiere here and it'll be available later on for you to share with all your friends on social.
Will: All right, let's talk about the one right that makes every other right actually mean something: the right to vote. It's sacred. And here's the thing about sacred: if you don't protect it, you can lose it. So let's make sure you know exactly where you stand before you walk into that polling place, because a lot of Americans get to the polls and realize they've got questions that nobody ever answered. Can someone stop you from voting? Can you wear a campaign t-shirt in the booth? Can people set up shop campaigning right outside the door? Good questions. To answer them properly, we're not just looking at the Constitution and the Supreme Court; we're looking at the state law too, because this one's got layers. Here's the foundation: over the years, constitutional amendments and federal laws have done nothing but expand and protect this right for more and more Americans. That's not an accident; that's the whole design. Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black put it as well as it's ever been put: "No right is more precious in a free country than that of having a voice in the election of those who make the laws under which, as good citizens, we must live. Other rights, even the most basic, are illusory if the right to vote is undermined." He's right. I've got nothing to add. Now, protecting the vote isn't just about letting people show up and cast a ballot. It's about protecting the whole process start to finish. Here's a myth I hear a lot: political speech is protected, so people can campaign anywhere, even right outside the polling place, maybe even inside. That sounds logical. Well, it isn't quite right. The Supreme Court has said that states actually have the obligation here to protect voters from intimidation, confusion, and disruption while they're standing in that booth trying to make up their mind. Nobody should feel pressured, harassed, or crowded on their way in. You should be able to vote your conscience without somebody breathing down your neck. Here's the part I really want you to hear. You have the right to vote for whoever you actually want, not whoever a party's decided you should want. Case in point: during the 2024 presidential race, Colorado Democrats tried to keep Donald Trump off the ballot entirely. The ACLJ stepped in and defended the voters' right to a fair election. Then Nevada tried to keep a Green Party candidate off their ballot. Same story, ACLJ stepped in again. Do you notice something? Different party, different candidate, same principle. This was never about picking sides. It's about making sure the Republic actually works the way it's supposed to. Your voice, your vote, period. So here's the bottom line: elections run best when voters know both their rights and their responsibilities. That's not a slogan; that's just how the system's built to function. If your right to vote gets questioned at the polls, your first call is to your state's election hotline. They'll handle it in real time. But if you still feel like your rights are being violated or suppressed, you need someone in your corner. Go to ACLJ.org/help because when it's your vote, your voice, and the integrity of the whole election on the line, the ACLJ is there for you. Learn more at ACLJ.org/rights.
Logan Sekulow: I hope you enjoyed those videos our team has put together. Will, good job.
Will: I do want to give a good shout-out to our video team. When people think about this broadcast, they think of this as the broadcast. We have a robust team that works on the video content, works on the audio side, works on social side. Really, our video team came up with this idea and said, "Hey, what if we do something a little different?" While thank you for that, I really was just performing what they gave me and they did a great job of making that a more engaging, entertaining type of video. Hopefully, it is shareable. Hopefully, that is something that people will say, "Hey, I like this content," and then it also brings people back to the ACLJ. You can be entertained and still get good information, but at the end of the day, if you feel like your rights are violated or if you feel like you have more questions, reach out to the ACLJ because we have some of the best media minds in the country, but we also have the best attorneys that can take it way further than I can in just a video.
Logan Sekulow: Those videos are going to be available in perpetuity on our website, on YouTube, on Facebook, on Instagram. Make sure you share them. If you like them, put in the comments that you like them because you know we'll be able to make more, spur more of those kind of things if you think it's great. Will gave a lot of credit away, but it did make it feel like, Will, if anything we put in front of you, you read like a Ron Burgundy. But I will say that this show is not scripted. We're not reading a teleprompter the entire time, all our little banter, all of it is just predetermined before, so don't worry. Obviously, we don't do that here. But I want to take some phone calls. Let's take one call before we head to the half-hour break. Let's go to Evelyn in Florida on line one. Go ahead, Evelyn. Evelyn, are you there? Well, I won't go to Evelyn. Let's put Evelyn back on hold, see if she's there, we'll try to get to her in the next segment. That being said, this is the end of our first half-hour. We have a second half-hour of the show. Why aren't you looking at our pretty faces? You can on ACLJ.org, on YouTube, on Rumble. We are broadcasting live every day from 12 to 1 PM Eastern Time. You can figure out your time zone from that. But it is—oh, there’s Jordan. I don’t know why that’s my brother. Why is that up there? All right, I don't know. How wonderful. Sorry about that. You know what? If you are just listening, you missed what we call an error. There were all the places you can connect with us. That's just for Jordan. That being said, I want you to go to ACLJ.org right now and support the work of the ACLJ during Know Your Rights Week. I want you to hopefully walk away this week knowing a little bit more about the rights that you have in this country. So be a part of it today. You can follow Jordan, I’ve got no problem with that, he’s a great resource. Today we're closing out Know Your Rights Week, though, and again, hopefully we have given you all the information that you need in situations that could come up in your life where you need to know the basic rights that you have under the Constitution. Sometimes you don't know. The ACLJ is always there to help. Not only the special videos, we have so much information on our website. None of it is behind a paywall. You may find other organizations like ours, other media empires like ours. You know what they do? They put everything behind a paywall. Not us. You ever been hit with one of those pop-ups? You have to log in. I have to call Will and say, "Send me a password." I'm good at that! We legally have that new feature. We don't do that here. We want to make sure all our content is available and it can be available to you to share with all your friends and for you to ingest it and for your friends to ingest it. That's why it's important. The ACLJ is supported by you, the listener, the contributor, the champion, those that give on a monthly basis. I'm going to ask you to do it today because anything done today is doubled. Have your gift doubled at ACLJ.org. Another ACLJ champion is ready to unlock their pledge as soon as you make your donation of any kind. Got a second half-hour coming up. If you're watching online, don't go anywhere. A less than a minute break and we're going to take your calls and comments coming up.
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Dr. Jay Alan Sekulow is Chief Counsel for the American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ), a legal and educational not-for-profit organization that focuses on constitutional law, the defense of freedoms of speech and religion, and international human rights. He is also Chief Counsel of the European Center for Law and Justice (ECLJ) based in Strasbourg, France, and the Slavic Center for Law and Justice (SCLJ) in Moscow, Russia. The ACLJ also has an affiliate office in Jerusalem, Israel.An accomplished and respected judicial advocate, Sekulow has presented oral argument before the U.S. Supreme Court in twelve cases in defense of constitutional freedoms. Several landmark cases argued by Sekulow before the U.S. Supreme Court have become part of the legal landscape in the area of religious liberty litigation; these cases include Mergens, Lamb's Chapel, McConnell v. FEC, Operation Rescue v. National Organization for Women, and most recently Pleasant Grove City v. Summum.
In 2009, Townhall Magazine named Sekulow to its "Townhall of Fame" and recognized him as "one of the top lawyers for religious freedom in the United States." In 2007, the Chicago Tribune concluded that the ACLJ has "led the way" in Christian legal advocacy. In 2005, TIME Magazine named Sekulow as one of the "25 Most Influential Evangelicals" in America and called the ACLJ "a powerful counterweight" to the ACLU. Business Week said the ACLJ is "the leading advocacy group for religious freedom." Sekulow's work on the issue of judicial nominees, including possible vacancies at the Supreme Court, has received extensive news coverage, including a front-page story in The Wall Street Journal. In addition, The National Law Journal has twice named Sekulow one of the "100 Most Influential Lawyers" in the United States (1994, 1997). He is also among a distinguished group of attorneys known as "The Public Sector 45" named by The American Lawyer (January/February 1997). The magazine said the designation represents "45 young lawyers outside the private sector whose vision and commitment are changing lives."
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